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Article ID: 5034-EIPV-6426 The content of this page is moderated by both Steam Support and the Steam user community - any links to outside sites should be treated with caution. Steam Support will not request your Steam account password for any reason, nor will you ever be asked to enter your Steam account password into a website form. Important: In practice, we have found that certain anti-virus applications allocate a large amount of paged pool memory that cannot be freed until the anti-virus software is fully uninstalled from the system. AVG 7.x, Norton/Symantec and NOD32 have been identified as anti-virus packages that allocate large amounts of paged pool memory and directly interfere with Source engine games. If disabling these applications does not help with the issue, you may want to consider uninstalling the anti-virus application to diagnose the cause of the crash. Intel Video CardsIf you are running Half-Life 2: Episode Two, Portal or Team Fortress 2 on a computer with an integrated Intel video card such as the Intel 945GM, please follow this Intel Compatibility guide. Paged Pool Memory Issues (Looping Sound Crash)These crashes are most commonly a result of running out of a special type of memory called paged pool memory. Paged pool memory is allocated by the OS kernel for use in applications such as Direct3D resources. Running out of paged pool memory can result in Direct3D crashes (a.k.a. game crashes) and in the Steam.exe process using 100% of the processor. In some cases you may get an error message stating there is an issue with paged pool memory and/or there will be black textures and missing models. In most cases, you will not see any such error message - your game will simply crash and the sound will loop. How to check your paged pool memory
Resolving paged pool memory issuesIf you have determined that your system is using too much paged pool memory, you can resolve the issue by closing processes that are using paged pool memory. You may determine which processes are using paged pool memory by watching the Paged Physical value as you close a process. Make note of those that result in the Paged Physical value dropping. Anti-virus and security applications are known to use large amounts of paged pool memory and will not release the memory when the game calls for it, resulting in a crash. Checking for a Paged Pool Memory LockSome systems may have a lock on their paged pool memory due to a setting in the boot.ini file. This can also be a cause of crashes due to the system not allocating enough paged pool memory to use for games like Team Fortress 2. To check this setting, please follow these directions: Note: editing system files can have adverse effects on your system's stability and performance. If you are not comfortable editing system files, please contact your system manufacturer for assistance.
Please proceed to the Advanced Troubleshooting section below if your boot.ini file does not have this setting. Otherwise:
By removing the paged pool memory lock, your system will be able to allocate the memory necessary for the game. Advanced TroubleshootingChecking Video Devices
Video Card Manufacturer Resources:PCI Latency TimingsWarning: Changing system resources can result in your computer not functioning properly. It is very important to record your original settings in the event that you must restore them. If you do not feel comfortable editing the PCI Latency settings for the system, please contact your system manufacturer for assistance. In some rare cases, the PCI Latency is a setting that can affect your system in such a way that you may experience "stuttering" or a looping sound crash while playing the game. There are various ways to go about adjusting your PCI latency timings to troubleshoot the issue. Please follow the directions included in the example below: PCI Latency Tool provided by Guru3d.com. Checking Sound DevicesDetermine whether you are using a built-in sound device or an add-on sound device by checking the Windows Device Manager. If your computer has both an on-board sound device and an add-on sound card (such as a Sound Blaster X-fi or Audigy), disable whichever sound device you are not using in Device Manager. Having multiple sound devices running concurrently can be problematic. If you are certain that you will not use the on-board sound provided on your motherboard, it is recommend that it is disabled in the system BIOS. Make sure that you are running the most recent driver available for your audio device. Most of these devices use drivers included in your operating system; however, newer drivers are occasionally available from the manufacturer that may resolve potential issues. Sound Card Manufacturer Resources:If you are experiencing this issue in Source games, a simple way to determine whether the issue is being caused by your sound device is to add -nosound as a launch option to your game. If the crash continues, it is unlikely to be an issue with your sound device. If this resolves your issue, then the sound device is quite likely the cause of your issue. To perform the same test, you must disable your audio interface from the Device Manager. Note: This launch option does not work for Gold Source games such as Half-Life, Counter-Strike, Day of Defeat and Team Fortress Classic. If -nosound resolves your issue, please follow these steps:
If the issue was resolved by adding -nosound but returns after setting the Hardware Sound Acceleration Level to Basic Acceleration, you may be experiencing a driver or IRQ issue. Built-in Sound DevicesWarning: Changing system resources such as IRQ channels can result in your computer not functioning properly. It is very important to record your original settings in the event that you must restore them. If you do not feel comfortable editing the IRQ for the system, please contact your system manufacturer for assistance. In the event that you have an IRQ conflict, you can move the sound device to another IRQ.
Add-on Sound DevicesIf you are running a PCI or external sound card such as a Creative Audigy, you may be able to resolve your crash by moving the card to a different PCI slot on the motherboard. "Gold Source" SpecificThis applies to the older series of games such as Half-Life, Counter-Strike, Team Fortress Classic and Day of Defeat. Launch the game and then go to Options-->Sound and uncheck the following:
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